Re: [visionlist] Beall’s List gone dark

> I’m wondering if some professional society might take up the mantle
and continue it, somehow.

The directory of open-access journals (http://doaj.org/) is in effect
such a resource. Although it takes the opposite approach: listing
journals that it considers legit, rather than blacklisting those it
doesn’t. I think that’s much more constructive that Beall’s list.

On 26/01/2017 17:55, John Pezaris wrote:
> I’d prefer to avoid personal attacks on a scientific mailing list.
>
> Beall’s list was an important resource. I’m wondering if some
> professional society might take up the mantle and continue it,
> somehow. The problem is that it would seem any society sufficiently
> large enough to devote the necessary resources (and fight any
> potential legal consequences) would have its own publication and
> therefore an inherent conflict of interest. Does anyone have ideas on
> how to avoid that scenario?
>
> – J.
>
>
>
> On 1/26/17, Sebastiaan Mathot wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>>
>> Let’s not glorify Jeffrey Beall too much (or at all). His list was
>> useful, but it was never healthy that such an important resource was
>> curated by a single nutcase. To illustrate, let me quote from one his
>> papers:
>>
>>
>> /”The open-access movement is really about anti-corporatism. OA
>> advocates want to make collective everything and eliminate private
>> business, except for small businesses owned by the disadvantaged. They
>> don’t like the idea of profit, even though many have a large portfolio
>> of mutual funds in their retirement accounts that invest in for-profit
>> companies.”/
>>
>>
>> And so on, and so on. Is that the kind of guy we want to depend on? No
>> thanks.
>>
>>
>> And yes, he actually wrote this! In an obscure open-access journal,
>> ironically.
>>
>>
>> – http://ift.tt/2kxsTq4
>>
>>
>> Michael Eisen wrote an interesting blog about this:
>>
>>
>> – http://ift.tt/19QHooz
>>
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Sebastiaan
>>
>>
>> On 26/01/2017 14:30, John Neuhoff wrote:
>>> Losing Beall’s list is really unfortunate, particularly for new
>>> scholars. There is some talks that Cabell’s International is
>>> developing a similar list based, in part, on Beall’s list. See:
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ift.tt/2jD27ss
>>>
>>>
>>> There is some speculation that these two events are related (though
>>> this has been denied by Cabell’s). See also the efforts of Dr. Eugene
>>> Noolah, a fictional character that has gotten himself appointed to the
>>> editorial boards of several predatory journals.
>>>
>>>
>>> http://ift.tt/2kwDl14
>>>
>>>
>>> -JN
>>>
>>> ___________________________
>>> John G. Neuhoff
>>> Department of Psychology
>>> The College of Wooster
>>> http://jneuhoff.com
>>>
>>>
>>>

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